tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post6559544206776036930..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: Putting Britain in a BoxJeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-71722787129188853542014-01-20T12:05:01.565-08:002014-01-20T12:05:01.565-08:00Jeff, you are wildly ignoring some major issues he...Jeff, you are wildly ignoring some major issues here. CAMRA is an organization designed for industry protection, not faux nostalgia.<br /><br />"In 2011, the only time I've ever visited the country, Fuller's John Keeling told me that ale then accounted for just 11% of all beer sales"<br /><br />This is precisely why CAMRA exists and has such stringent rules. It's meant to Daniel Warnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15541362075861422658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-5268778265941495522014-01-17T15:13:25.846-08:002014-01-17T15:13:25.846-08:00Hi Jeff - For some reason the other thread was eat...Hi Jeff - For some reason the other thread was eating my comments so I will try and post here. The term "mouth rape" originated in male prisons. I hope this adds to the discussion in a constructive way.Mr. Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-27639783954856656522014-01-17T12:51:11.615-08:002014-01-17T12:51:11.615-08:00Boddington is a bitter (form of pale ale) and mode...Boddington is a bitter (form of pale ale) and modern golden ales are ... a form of pale ale - I don't see the real difference other than differing house flavours. Also, Gregory & Knock circa mid-70's described the basic bitter as yellow - not amber-brown, but straw or yellow. These beers were survivals of 1800's pale ale which was often quite pale indeed. A lot of bitter was Gary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-3851740705045983812014-01-17T08:50:04.522-08:002014-01-17T08:50:04.522-08:00Bailey, I appreciate the reply. I was going to at...Bailey, I appreciate the reply. I was going to attempt to answer Gary's comments based on half-remembered stuff I'd read. You make a much better witness for the prosecution. <br /><br />Another point I was going to make beyond availability is that even when you consider all the styles Gary mentions, it doesn't really amount to a terrible lot of variety. Porters actually died out Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-63424956697868655872014-01-17T05:16:52.932-08:002014-01-17T05:16:52.932-08:00Gary
I think Jeff is about right.
Ploughing thro...Gary<br /><br />I think Jeff is about right.<br /><br />Ploughing through old copies of the Good Beer Guide from the 1980s, we found bitter, best bitter and the occasional winter warmer, and that's about it. That sense of the dominance of 'brown bitter' from c.1970 onward is supported by anecdotal evidence from people we interviewed.<br /><br />Mild was almost extinct; porters you Baileyhttp://boakandbailey.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-18175503363970905382014-01-16T11:03:07.813-08:002014-01-16T11:03:07.813-08:00Jeff, I don't agree that it was the same two o...Jeff, I don't agree that it was the same two or three styles for cask beer for the last 30 years. There was always variety for those who know where to look and after all we are all geeks, we know where to look or to ask (as you did). There were and are golden ales (even before the first in the 90's in UK, e.g., Boddies was a gold ale to begin with), winter ales, porters, bitters, pale Gary Gillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-60519284780819480412014-01-16T11:01:12.199-08:002014-01-16T11:01:12.199-08:00I had to look up "driving cap". Ah, a fl...I had to look up "driving cap". Ah, a flat cap. Only insufferable too-cool-for-school urban males wear them in the pub.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-8768386118638155092014-01-16T10:25:19.663-08:002014-01-16T10:25:19.663-08:00Funny, isn't this also what CAMRA thinks Brita...Funny, isn't this also what CAMRA thinks Britain? BeerBrarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10969632673190542761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-18061413196944462912014-01-16T09:12:27.523-08:002014-01-16T09:12:27.523-08:00I think we as Americans have inspired the Brits in...I think we as Americans have inspired the Brits in there love of different styles but also in updating those old images of the neighborhood pubs. You still can find those Victorian pubs but I believe the new generation of beer drinkers are interested more in the quality of beer and a updated aesthetics. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03509332883562511209noreply@blogger.com