tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post7410930821906257600..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: Beer drinking Increases Stomach Cancer (Probably)Jeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-5318252904225488892011-04-20T04:52:26.056-07:002011-04-20T04:52:26.056-07:00Is it just me, or isn't that a lot of beer to ...Is it just me, or isn't that a lot of beer to be drinking? 3 beers every day!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.beerbirrabier.com" rel="nofollow">BeerBirraBier.</a>Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09280318504737098116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-82255984661406057362011-04-14T00:07:46.089-07:002011-04-14T00:07:46.089-07:00A lot of doctors say that beer is very good for he...A lot of doctors say that beer is very good for health, now i am confused, i don`t know what to think.expert contabilhttp://expertcontabilbucuresti.ro/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-81631681249082369982011-04-12T12:06:54.590-07:002011-04-12T12:06:54.590-07:00An anonymous commenter left a remarkable post abou...An anonymous commenter left a remarkable post about the science of the particular "single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP)" in question--not, according to the commenter, a gene. S/he must have deleted the comment, which is too bad--it was remarkable. <br /><br />(The commenter took issue with the finding.)Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-90193266169627382592011-04-12T11:46:57.847-07:002011-04-12T11:46:57.847-07:00I love pop-science. Its like eggs. First eggs we...I love pop-science. Its like eggs. First eggs were good for you, then bad. Then just the whites were ok and something else reared its head. BAH! Everyone simply trying to make a name for their study (and themselves) by posting "bold new discoveries" and preying on the fears of the health conscious (or paranoid).<br /><br />If drinking beer means getting stomach cancer, then I'Sud Savanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03025281063940792238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-17459244939988292312011-04-12T06:30:28.774-07:002011-04-12T06:30:28.774-07:00As a scientist, I'd like to point out a couple...As a scientist, I'd like to point out a couple of things if I may. First of all, this is not data from a peer reviewed, published research journal article. Instead, it's from a conference presentation. Usually, this is where we vet recently completed research prior to publication. It is not uncommon for peer review to require additional studies that might end up tempering the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-71968287835236745222011-04-11T16:39:49.683-07:002011-04-11T16:39:49.683-07:00Thanks for pointing that out, Patrick. I misread t...Thanks for pointing that out, Patrick. I misread that sentence the first time.Jacob Grierhttp://www.jacobgrier.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-35824827251319851372011-04-11T15:05:02.790-07:002011-04-11T15:05:02.790-07:00I actually meant to include the qualification you ...I actually meant to include the qualification you (Jacob and Kaplan) mention with respect to 75% of what. In brewery terms, it's always useful to ask that question when you hear a brewery boast massive growth by percentage.<br /><br />On the other hand, I would guess that nearly doubling the incidence of stomach cancer, if it proves to be true, is a serious finding. You can still take your Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-58610597740117837862011-04-11T13:00:50.442-07:002011-04-11T13:00:50.442-07:00They do actually say in the article that there is ...They do actually say in the article that there is a 1 in 114 chance that an individual will develop this cancer in their lives (though this is overall and not a conditional nor a hazard rate).<br /><br />What I wonder is how well they were able to isolate the true causality as heavy beer consumption could correlate to many other activities that are not good for you as well as things like obesity.Patrick Emersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17242234148546323374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-19787942467977023362011-04-11T12:56:17.461-07:002011-04-11T12:56:17.461-07:00Jacob, before I saw your comment I thought the exa...Jacob, before I saw your comment I thought the exact same thing so I did some research. So according to the Seer study (http://www.seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/stomach.html) stomach cancer appears to be pretty rare with a rate of 10.9 per 100,000 so I 75% increase if all 100,000 men drank the beer in amounts suggested would mean about another 8 men out of 100,000. The mortality rate is aboutKaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509784767114209740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-26282083691673620422011-04-11T12:31:54.613-07:002011-04-11T12:31:54.613-07:00That MSNBC article is a perfect example of what...That MSNBC article is a perfect example of what's wrong with science journalism. It tells you that the risk increases by 75%, but it doesn't tell you what the base risk is. A 75% increase of a tiny risk is still a tiny risk. So what is the risk that a non-beer drinking adult will develop stomach cancer? Without that info, you know virtually nothing about the costs and benefits of drinkingJacob Grierhttp://www.jacobgrier.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-53194792522856700932011-04-11T12:24:07.516-07:002011-04-11T12:24:07.516-07:00This reminds me of a recent XKCD comic.
http://xk...This reminds me of a recent XKCD comic.<br /><br />http://xkcd.com/882/Lanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232760516150141094noreply@blogger.com