tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post9143800720604866147..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: Reviewing the Storied History of Porter and StoutJeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-61974352634434905192011-02-10T10:00:14.046-08:002011-02-10T10:00:14.046-08:00Jeff, with due appreciation, I hope you realize yo...Jeff, with due appreciation, I hope you realize you're a pro-porter extremist.Soggy Coasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14646016892555782239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-86863243028163996942011-02-10T09:08:04.256-08:002011-02-10T09:08:04.256-08:00Plus, of course, Ireland wasn't an export mark...Plus, of course, Ireland wasn't an export market for British goods until 1922. You have to feel sorry for the poor Guinness execs, suddenly finding that the tide of history has stranded their giant brewery in a foreign country.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-45475881272684725152011-02-10T08:59:45.557-08:002011-02-10T08:59:45.557-08:00Beer Nut, ah, I see you point. You're correct...Beer Nut, ah, I see you point. You're correct--I have no idea which was the first export market for porters. I stand corrected.<br /><br />Bill, I wouldn't worry TOO much--no one reads blogs! (Although it does confirm my suspicions that a group porter/stout meme is underway.)Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-8835344573478144842011-02-10T06:34:56.633-08:002011-02-10T06:34:56.633-08:00Nice post Jeff, although your stealing my thunder ...Nice post Jeff, although your stealing my thunder for a presentation I'm doing for the OBC tonight on how styles change with time and how our modern conceptions of porter and stout are really only about 30 years old.Bill Schnellernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-24660509773154190422011-02-10T04:27:15.328-08:002011-02-10T04:27:15.328-08:00Beg pardon: p.61, third paragraph.Beg pardon: p.61, third paragraph.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-80074775954663414092011-02-10T04:25:08.620-08:002011-02-10T04:25:08.620-08:00Jeff, that quotation does not say that porter was ...Jeff, that quotation does not say that porter was first sent to Ireland. It does not say anything about which places got porter and in which order, only that Ireland consumed lots of it.<br /><br />Martyn mentions elsewhere in the chapter (p.63) that porter was brewed in Glasgow a year before it was brewed in Dublin. How do you know porter wasn't being sent from London to Scotland before it The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-45069259324875401712011-02-09T17:09:27.187-08:002011-02-09T17:09:27.187-08:00Matthew, I don't know about that, but I much a...Matthew, I don't know about that, but I much appreciate the appreciation. (I'm no ready to try to live up to the standard of a living legend.)<br /><br />BN, Cornell, again, though I have seen this reference in a number of places. It should be pretty easy to track: when were the first Irish brewers producing porter?<br /><br />In any case, for your files, here's Cornell, from A, G, Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-56727026927394613862011-02-09T12:45:41.814-08:002011-02-09T12:45:41.814-08:00"It was first sent to Ireland"
Never hea..."It was first sent to Ireland"<br />Never heard that before. What's your source?The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-40269226320897410372011-02-09T12:11:30.762-08:002011-02-09T12:11:30.762-08:00Great post Jeff! You're the Fred of our time ...Great post Jeff! You're the Fred of our time here in Beervana. <br /><br />New Glarus has an Old English Porter that's made to the traditional example by blending browns together with a bit of funk: http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/new-glarus-unplugged-old-english-porter/107128/Matthew DiTullohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07468721391447871061noreply@blogger.com