tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post1337649932320964376..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: Appellation "Northwest"?Jeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-48647818395660352982010-01-10T14:43:15.886-08:002010-01-10T14:43:15.886-08:00I think you've hit it on the head with the &qu...I think you've hit it on the head with the "hoppy" distinction, since the IPA seems to enjoy unparalleled popularity up here. As "Washington Beer Blog" pointed out, even our IPA taste is pushing the IBU bar higher and higher. Perhaps it has to do with our locally accessible hop crops (Best hops around!!!!).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-19971882479416806032010-01-06T22:09:24.894-08:002010-01-06T22:09:24.894-08:00Don't worry, I'm going to keep on trying l...Don't worry, I'm going to keep on trying locally crafted beers of the whole spectrum, but I will mainly stay towards the <40 IBU beers. My favorite types are many of the Belgian styles, some of the German bocks, and occasionally a wheat beer or porter if I'm in the mood. None of those styles are mainstream here in the Portland brew scene, but you can find them if you look for Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00097878173622170668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-61365739339444313072010-01-06T07:47:30.774-08:002010-01-06T07:47:30.774-08:00@Shawn
I tuned into the craft beer scene 3/4 year ...@Shawn<br />I tuned into the craft beer scene 3/4 year ago. I began a quest to replace my 2 standard European pilsners with PNW pilsners. The pilsner from HUB, Bayern, Baron, Full Sail, Lagunitas, Seven Brides, Caldera, Leavenworth, Heater Allen, et cetra are good pilsner lagers.<br /><br />Seven Brides and Baron Brewing Cos. both offer ~1/2 dozen moderate [25-40]IBU lagers. There are not doubt Jack R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07625645308707849072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-40096837032149834282010-01-05T21:06:52.572-08:002010-01-05T21:06:52.572-08:00@Shawn: Sure it leaves a lot of beers out, but bei...@Shawn: Sure it leaves a lot of beers out, but being Beervana, you have access to some fantastic low bitterness ales from around the state.<br /><br />A quick search of my Beer App (shameless plug) came up with 150+ Oregon beers under 45 IBUs. Here are some of my personal favorites that aren't too bitter.<br /><br />Captured By Porches - Red Emma Amber<br />Double Mountain - Kolsch<br />Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06493321326831765055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-23891187570844207752010-01-05T15:08:20.271-08:002010-01-05T15:08:20.271-08:00As a recent arrival to Portland (and to the craft ...As a recent arrival to Portland (and to the craft beer scene), the popularity of bitter beers here is a downer. I'm not a fan of IPAs or pretty much any beer with a IBU of over 40 or so. That leaves out a LOT of beers here in PDX.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00097878173622170668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-42324890324431046312010-01-05T15:06:47.009-08:002010-01-05T15:06:47.009-08:00I'd say that any more Northwest and West Coast...I'd say that any more Northwest and West Coast are interchangeable when describing styles. California calls it West Coast, we don't like to share, so we call it NW.<br /><br />Appellation might not quite be the right word for WC/NW beers. Sure, the beers are produced here, as are a good portion of the hops, but most of the grain still comes from elsewhere.<br /><br />Anyway, to me what Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06493321326831765055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-65536290699461249392010-01-05T14:48:38.889-08:002010-01-05T14:48:38.889-08:00I think a NW appelation is fine. Obviously plenty...I think a NW appelation is fine. Obviously plenty of local hops would be the most obvious common denominator.<br /><br />What most bothers me about this post is that now the Red Chair can apparently be interchangeably be considered an IPA and Pale Ale. Are Pale Ales getting so strong that they're indistinguishable from IPAs? <br /><br />Will there be any beers left that aren't 7% abv andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-60214833750263788762010-01-05T14:08:06.949-08:002010-01-05T14:08:06.949-08:00Five comments in the span of 23 minutes and then n...Five comments in the span of 23 minutes and then nothing. I suspect the influence of Twitter.<br /><br />That haze is the infusion, I think, Stan. I remember you commenting on it during your visit this summer.<br /><br />Mark, nice description of appellation. I considered getting deeper into it, but you did a better job than I would have.<br /><br />WWB, I don't know about that. I Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-12344987935581937752010-01-05T11:18:29.489-08:002010-01-05T11:18:29.489-08:00I'd say it's balanced big IBUs. More than...I'd say it's balanced big IBUs. More than a trend, I'd say it's our regional style. Hop wallops with finesse.Suds Sisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-27480607088583474392010-01-05T11:06:55.958-08:002010-01-05T11:06:55.958-08:00Perhaps the beer commonly called "Imperial IP...Perhaps the beer commonly called "Imperial IPA" is the most uniquely Northwest. Let's face it, at a certain gravity it really stops being an IPA. And I don't remember reading anything about a Russian Czar (Imperial) liking to drink IPA. So maybe an Imperial IPA is neither Imperial or IPA? Maybe it's a whole new thing. Maybe a NW Ale is 80+ IBUs and 8.0+ ABV. I don't Washington Beer Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03437116752155498894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-47025463967557671572010-01-05T11:06:37.114-08:002010-01-05T11:06:37.114-08:00I have nowhere near the tasting experience to answ...I have nowhere near the tasting experience to answer the direct question about a Northwest style. I can say that it behooves Northwest brewers to establish this sort of differentiation as a way to appeal to drinkers here and elsewhere. <br /><br />The very reason that Champagne growers and bottlers insist that only Champagne can come from that tiny region around Epernay is that it gives them a Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07522969360434191018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-16741801243741265382010-01-05T10:58:24.783-08:002010-01-05T10:58:24.783-08:00Northwestern hops have certainly taken on a local ...Northwestern hops have certainly taken on a local character, in both the sense of intentional breeding and terroir. <br /><br />I'd say that local brewer's full-throttle use of these flowers - due to their unique character and local source - justify the use of a "Northwest" appellation.<br /><br />Beer lovers around the world recognize that for <i>this</i> corner of the world, Richardhttp://www.calyxdesign.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-80856987948639683892010-01-05T10:57:11.264-08:002010-01-05T10:57:11.264-08:00Call it the "Widmer effect" but it seems...Call it the "Widmer effect" but it seems to me you see more hazy - often hop haze - beers in the Northwest.<br /><br />Granted, that's a dangerously broad brush. You can find hazy beers in brewpubs in most parts of the country. I think of highly hopped beers from SoCal as generally more clear, but then you have Green Flash.<br /><br />And I don't think it applies to Red Chair.Stan Hieronymushttp://www.appellationbeer.com/blognoreply@blogger.com