tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post2590137473427571057..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: Don't Call It "Good" Beer, EitherJeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-64287134801042986122011-10-11T18:07:58.788-07:002011-10-11T18:07:58.788-07:00"...Not in the hand crafted sense of the worl..."...Not in the hand crafted sense of the world but rather made with quality in mind..."<br /><br />Could you imagine the day that all craft brewers actually have that idea as a principle that is presented in their production? Until then, I will stick with my old friend, the good, and let the bureaucrats of CAMRA and the branders of craft do what they have to.Alanhttp://beerblog.genx40.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-2198202501595180652011-10-11T16:54:42.103-07:002011-10-11T16:54:42.103-07:00At this point, I believe the beer genie is out of ...At this point, I believe the beer genie is out of the bottle. There is probably not a single term that will clearly and systematically describe the "good" "craft" beer that is currently available.<br /><br />The least objectionable choice to me is "craft". Not in the hand crafted sense of the world but rather made with quality in mind. Like wood craft. The word Sean Inmanhttp://www.beersearchparty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-53654648704341799262011-10-11T16:01:42.145-07:002011-10-11T16:01:42.145-07:00What's being missed is the distinction between...What's being missed is the distinction between what the drinker needs and what an organisation needs.<br /><br />You, Alan and I are perfectly happy with good. We can blog about good. We know where we stand and if people disagree with what we say good is, then fair enough: we just delete their comments. One has a reputation to uphold and all that.<br /><br />Non-humans don't have the The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-4687970403481399672011-10-11T15:31:21.254-07:002011-10-11T15:31:21.254-07:00"Good" is an opinion: "That Rainier..."Good" is an opinion: "That Rainier in the green bottle is good." <br /><br />"Craft" at least has the advantage of not being an opinion: "That Rainer in the green bottle is craft."<br /><br />However, neither term works as a descriptor of the beer we enjoy.<br /><br />To the drawing board...Pete Dunlophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17456380762400522665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-75004739529199240542011-10-11T12:28:28.388-07:002011-10-11T12:28:28.388-07:00Well, not to be disagreeable, but I am not in agre...Well, not to be disagreeable, but I am not in agreement with the idea that "good" is not an improvement over "craft". However, I do not have access to Webb's article. So can't tell if he is admitting the subjective authority of "good" is a vast improvement over the false objectivity of "real" or Reinheitsgebot or any other standard.Alanhttp://beerblog.genx40.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-69892610180783689202011-10-11T10:42:34.699-07:002011-10-11T10:42:34.699-07:00Alan, unless language has lost all meaning to me (...Alan, unless language has lost all meaning to me (not implausible), we're all on the same page here.Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-29195147706995731812011-10-11T09:27:53.378-07:002011-10-11T09:27:53.378-07:00Webb is exactly wrong on this. Just as I don'...Webb is exactly wrong on this. Just as I don't need someone telling me that "craft" will suffice, I don't need someone telling me what makes for good. No one can tell you what is good. Webb further assumes that a technical spec ought to be able to measure it but that is confusing production with consumption. <br /><br />Only the drinker can tell for sure. Opposition to the Alanhttp://beerblog.genx40.com/noreply@blogger.com