tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post2609616747900413017..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: Where Czech and Oregon Beer MetJeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-37172251158685315702012-11-02T08:20:02.326-07:002012-11-02T08:20:02.326-07:00I was surprised how much I've learned just fro...I was surprised how much I've learned just from Jeff's brief posts on Czech beer. Two weeks ago, I would have only been able to tell you about PU and Budvar. I've since dug into some books at the library and I'll be a regular visitor to Max's website.<br />I think my knowledge level is representative of the average American better beer drinker (this is my opinion).Kurtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-33001424308120700892012-11-02T05:55:22.680-07:002012-11-02T05:55:22.680-07:00To follow up on my own post, I looked at Amazon (U...To follow up on my own post, I looked at Amazon (US) for "Czech beer". I've found at least five books. They include, among others, Evan Rail's Good Beer guide, SB Jeffrey "A Brief History of Beer in the Czech Republic", "The 2011 Import and Export Market for Beer and Malt Beverages in Czech Republic" and many general beer guides that include the Czech mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18391986396999558718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-10144205657819431252012-11-02T02:59:58.699-07:002012-11-02T02:59:58.699-07:00The point I was making was that Jeff wrote: "...The point I was making was that Jeff wrote: "Even more, it's like Oregon in the sense that it's this huge, rich scene no one knows that much about."<br /><br />You have just proved that it is incorrect by demonstrating that you DO know much about it. He does not qualify that sentence with "In the US" or "Among American beer geeks" or any other qualification. mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18391986396999558718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-16753268534976890402012-11-01T13:03:26.917-07:002012-11-01T13:03:26.917-07:00Mind you, this isn't a jab against Yanks, or a...Mind you, this isn't a jab against Yanks, or anyone in particular. Except for a few exceptions, Czech beer hasn't travel all that much, so, unless someone in the US follows Czech based blogs or has spent here some time, it will be rather hard to know much about Czech beer.Pivní Filosofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17883511608403454943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-39394412245800820972012-11-01T12:59:51.163-07:002012-11-01T12:59:51.163-07:00Mike? How many Americans know what polotmavé, výče...Mike? How many Americans know what polotmavé, výčepní, speciál, ležák are? How many know what "Porter" means in CZ? How many know the difference between nefiltrované and kvasnicové? Pivní Filosofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17883511608403454943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-50634905096574893202012-11-01T11:21:47.402-07:002012-11-01T11:21:47.402-07:00Dialogue? It seems more one-sided and parochial, t...Dialogue? It seems more one-sided and parochial, to me.<br /><br />I certainly agree that Americans may and frequently do have a different perspective on things. But isn't there a fundamental difference between perspective and fact?<br /><br />mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18391986396999558718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-43315802496051263482012-11-01T11:06:43.814-07:002012-11-01T11:06:43.814-07:00Just to clarify, context (of which nationality is ...Just to clarify, context (of which nationality is a big piece) is the base for communication. For the commenter who rails most often about--and against--the American point of view, I would have thought you'd understand that. The bulk of your commentary is one long jeremiad against the American perspective. That's ONLY valuable to the extent we acknowledge perpectives differ. <br /><br />Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-16108881114842985272012-11-01T11:01:19.269-07:002012-11-01T11:01:19.269-07:00Far out mike, far, far out. Far out mike, far, far out. Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-91116109022771398422012-11-01T10:51:23.048-07:002012-11-01T10:51:23.048-07:00What does the nationality of your readers have to ...What does the nationality of your readers have to do with facts?<br /><br />mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18391986396999558718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-65405058197281690772012-11-01T09:15:22.063-07:002012-11-01T09:15:22.063-07:00Mike, as you well know, my readers are American, n...Mike, as you well know, my readers are American, not Czechs or Germans (on can dream, but). So yes, beyond pilsner, it's manifestly true that Americans have no idea how many styles of beers are made in Czech. Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-4000475006176818742012-11-01T08:42:01.079-07:002012-11-01T08:42:01.079-07:00Jeff, how many pilsener/lager beers are brewed in ...Jeff, how many pilsener/lager beers are brewed in Oregon? Not so many, I would guess. And in the Czech Republic? Loads, right?<br /><br />"Even more, it's like Oregon in the sense that it's this huge, rich scene no one knows that much about."<br /><br />No one knows that much about Czech beer? Is that a joke? It certainly sounds like one.mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18391986396999558718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-90141736074986983032012-10-31T23:14:34.692-07:002012-10-31T23:14:34.692-07:00Max, it was a joy. I had such a blast.
Tracy, th...Max, it was a joy. I had such a blast. <br /><br />Tracy, that book is really useful, and it will get you up to speed on Czech beer. (Good luck with the language, though. I never learned how to say "thanks"--though sounds are very strange.) <br /><br />Jack, tmave just means dark, and the beers may be any strength. It doesn't really relate to flavor, either. The Budvar tmave is Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-28098551538519884312012-10-31T19:40:25.864-07:002012-10-31T19:40:25.864-07:00Wondering, does the tmave Czech dark lager bear an...Wondering, does the tmave Czech dark lager bear any resemblance to American Baltic Porter lagers such as Heater Allen - Sandy Paws Baltic Porter lager?Jack R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07625645308707849072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-41203160476156880502012-10-31T12:55:54.702-07:002012-10-31T12:55:54.702-07:00We're going to Prague in a month. We've vi...We're going to Prague in a month. We've visited there once before, and are going this time for Christmas Market and for good beer. Thanks for the pointer to Pivini Filosof - I just bought his eBook guide to Prague pubs :)Tracy Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-80700319441880890162012-10-31T11:43:24.022-07:002012-10-31T11:43:24.022-07:00Great report! Bring home Czech beer!Great report! Bring home Czech beer!Pete Dunlophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17456380762400522665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-53476410508447477702012-10-31T03:08:08.097-07:002012-10-31T03:08:08.097-07:00It was a great pleasure to be able to help you out...It was a great pleasure to be able to help you out, and an even greater pleasure to share a few beers with you. Had great time both days.Pivní Filosofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17883511608403454943noreply@blogger.com