tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post3126669870560269673..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: The Language of BeerJeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-56517175984591026162013-01-07T16:33:37.634-08:002013-01-07T16:33:37.634-08:00Sometimes what you like (or even what you believe)...Sometimes what you like (or even what you believe) is influenced by your surroundings and the people you hang out with. I'd say it's more likely one grows up to be a democrat in Portland than, say, Omaha. Likewise, I'd say you're much more likely to favor American lagers in Omaha than in Portland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-52129860191001537992013-01-07T14:40:31.829-08:002013-01-07T14:40:31.829-08:00I reckon you'll find most drinkers, everywhere...I reckon you'll find <i>most</i> drinkers, everywhere, would be appalled by a 100 IBU double IPA. That's why it's not the dominant style of beer in the world. I'd hazard that IPA is not the biggest-selling style in Oregon either.<br /><br />Yes, there are regional tastes. But I don't think you can extend that to say there are discernable regional distastes as well.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-16809132613951008602013-01-07T14:32:00.290-08:002013-01-07T14:32:00.290-08:00Please, what are the 14 non-blah Dunkel(s) you fou...Please, what are the 14 non-blah Dunkel(s) you found among the 24 in Bavaria? This expat Oregonian needs to know. <br /><br />Augustiner's is at least drinkable, but....?<br /><br />Thing with German beer is, as that say, "Geiz ist geil", cheap is fabulous. No One wants to pay much for their Dunkel, so brewers don't want to invest much in their production.Erlangernickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564871714656285737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-90016944120079134242013-01-07T13:32:54.822-08:002013-01-07T13:32:54.822-08:00My only comment is I suspect there are many tradit...My only comment is I suspect there are many traditional styles that are missing in action or under-appreciated due current hop-centric tastes. Kolsch is another terrific style that is, in my mind, largely overlooked. Just one more reason to love Occidental.Pete Dunlophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17456380762400522665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-24919307167394939742013-01-07T12:28:59.409-08:002013-01-07T12:28:59.409-08:00You may want to check the beer rating site archive...You may want to check the beer rating site archives to determine how they rated dunkles ten years ago. I suspect that, as this era of hoppiness had not truly begun, the distinction would not be as great.Alanhttp://agoodbeerblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-32848971375904254772013-01-07T11:10:37.135-08:002013-01-07T11:10:37.135-08:00Don't get too caught up in the ratings site an...Don't get too caught up in the ratings site analysis--I was reporting how I started thinking about things. The point is, people do have very different regional tastes. Forget the BeerAdvocate--Bavarians are going to be appalled if you give them a 100 IBU double IPA. Oregon breweries have a hard time giving away dunkel lagers, English milds (or any sessionable cask beer for that matter--if Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-41012775418470747382013-01-07T11:00:58.929-08:002013-01-07T11:00:58.929-08:00It has always appeared that people rate beer based...It has always appeared that people rate beer based on how "Extreme" the character. If you look at most of these "rating" (I use the term very loosely) web sites, you'll quickly see that all the highest rated beers are big beers. Big alcohol, big hops, big malt... big, big, big! Stouts and big hoppy beers! That instantly says most of these raters can only appreciate the bigAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-64946646938758453502013-01-07T10:54:10.735-08:002013-01-07T10:54:10.735-08:00I'm inclined to believe that the issue is unre...I'm inclined to believe that the issue is unrelated to variations in international tastes or misunderstandings of beer styles, and all to do with assigning credence to data generated by a beer rating site.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-34477296776906790512013-01-07T10:06:34.111-08:002013-01-07T10:06:34.111-08:00Excellent points. I love dunkels and am always bem...Excellent points. I love dunkels and am always bemused to see their 'ratings' here and there (though perhaps part of the fault lies with me, as I have not felt motivated enough to rate those I enjoy myself); the same goes for many other styles that don't necessarily stand out on ABV and/or whatever 'otherness' is in vogue at present.<br /><br />On the other hand, I can see howLisahttp://www.weirdbeergirl.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-37519976214812149852013-01-07T10:02:47.952-08:002013-01-07T10:02:47.952-08:00Exactly. For a long, long time I (an American) was...Exactly. For a long, long time I (an American) was of the same mind as Europeans with regards to high hops because I just hadn't found something that spoke to me. When I finally got my hands on a bottle of Pliny the Elder and saw how it could be great when done correctly, I became appreciative. I got it. I needed to find that right example to speak to me. <br /><br />On the flip side, I'Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12321865399706410702noreply@blogger.com