tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post4535093599662457806..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: Who's the Villain?Jeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-44548573668053211292015-03-20T17:37:57.087-07:002015-03-20T17:37:57.087-07:00We are not going to be able to adjudicate this cas...We are not going to be able to adjudicate this case with the information we have available. But for those of you who think that your ability to eyeball this and make a judgment is good enough, I say: you're probably wrong. Trademark law has a lot of wrinkles, and getting a trademark is not as easy as just applying for it first. The Trademark Office is a regulatory body that has to weigh Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-68893981462579132172015-03-18T18:49:13.522-07:002015-03-18T18:49:13.522-07:00Not everyone who is sticking up for Innovation is ...Not everyone who is sticking up for Innovation is a hippie. I just really disagree that them trademarking "Innovation Brewing" (not "innovation" as the author writes it) would have any harm on Bell's. It also would be very easy for them to simply agree that Bell's can continue to use the 2 slogans "Inspired Brewing" and "Bottling Innovation since 1985&Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-70477766727105015162015-03-18T12:06:36.458-07:002015-03-18T12:06:36.458-07:00Does anyone remember that Bell's Oberon was on...Does anyone remember that Bell's Oberon was once called Sol-Sun. A big deal at the time for Sol-Sun fans, I bet less than 5% of oberon drinkers have ever even heard about this. Take your medicine Innovation, move on, and make a name with quality beer like Larry did. Business is business and that is that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-91869271974308866032015-03-15T10:50:02.866-07:002015-03-15T10:50:02.866-07:00Social media "democracy" is nothing more...Social media "democracy" is nothing more than mob rule. I'll side with the grown up brewery over the tantrum throwing hippies. timmay!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-32842590881855144982015-03-14T00:18:22.693-07:002015-03-14T00:18:22.693-07:00LMAO at the gofundme already. That's the real ...LMAO at the gofundme already. That's the real story, here: the wildfire of social media hate mobs and the concomitant crowd sourced begging. <br /><br />I think we all need to accept at this point that the world wide web was a really bad idea.Daniel Warnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-45883546120263151802015-03-14T00:11:54.860-07:002015-03-14T00:11:54.860-07:00Other industries can, and do, trademark similarly ...Other industries can, and do, trademark similarly common words and phrases. "Windows" or "Apple," anyone? The disputes can and do cross industry and is not really necessary for people to reasonably mistake the two marks. <br /><br />If you don't like it, I suggest taking it up with an organization devoted to fixing patent/copyright/tm law. Bell's did nothing wrong hereDaniel Warnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-71590862854088811262015-03-13T12:09:08.278-07:002015-03-13T12:09:08.278-07:00Jeff,
They're trying to trademark Innovation ...Jeff,<br /><br />They're trying to trademark Innovation Brewing, not "innovation".<br /><br />I don't think anyone who is using the word already (or even in the future) is going to have a problem.<br /><br />That's as silly as bell's suing someone else for using the word "bottling"... If anyone comes up with "Anon bottling" or says "bottling Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-49978003860602265122015-03-12T21:27:38.163-07:002015-03-12T21:27:38.163-07:00Hey, you appear to have some idiots reading your j...Hey, you appear to have some idiots reading your journalistic efforts, such as they are. Very impressive. I read you before I watch the FOX News every damn day.Pete Dunlophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17456380762400522665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-29310423688632058392015-03-12T19:53:06.320-07:002015-03-12T19:53:06.320-07:00I love Bell's, but this move seems inappropria...I love Bell's, but this move seems inappropriate & mean-spirited. Protecting your "unregistered advertising slogan"? ...give me a fucking break. Please, Larry, inject some common sense & humanity into this situation & end it now!blackhooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-84024344315827536952015-03-12T19:06:11.098-07:002015-03-12T19:06:11.098-07:00Anon, enough with the oblique, passive-aggressive ...Anon, enough with the oblique, passive-aggressive comments. If you have something to say, say it. I did not write a balanced post because I don't believe this is a balanced situation. I think Innovation has made a common mistake for a new company and tried to trademark a common name. (Willamette Brewing did the same thing, got into so much trouble that they changed the name to Oakshire. Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-37955852364054734942015-03-12T19:00:53.647-07:002015-03-12T19:00:53.647-07:00You may have posted this before their reply, but y...You may have posted this before their reply, but you chose to share it just as one-sidedly on their actual reply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-34364357971284948472015-03-12T14:58:53.285-07:002015-03-12T14:58:53.285-07:00Anon, thanks for the (unnecessarily snarky) tip. ...Anon, thanks for the (unnecessarily snarky) tip. Their response came after I posted this. But I do like the implication--probably wrong--that I bear some resemblance to a journalist.Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-5892563844041692332015-03-12T14:49:28.734-07:002015-03-12T14:49:28.734-07:00Of course, maybe you should have posted Innovation...Of course, maybe you should have posted Innovation Brewings response to Bells post. Just as informative, and would only be fair. Journalists do that sometimesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-18270940552065822452015-03-12T13:56:07.329-07:002015-03-12T13:56:07.329-07:00I'm going to North Carolina to visit Bell'...I'm going to North Carolina to visit Bell's. That's what they'd have you believe if Innovation doesn't change their name. I know I and millions of others hear the word innovation and immediately think Bell's. On a 1-10 douche scale I put Bell's at an 8.8. Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14256078606152011585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-63393871080645597212015-03-12T11:29:26.863-07:002015-03-12T11:29:26.863-07:00geez Jeff, this piece should be mandatory reading ...geez Jeff, this piece should be mandatory reading for all new (and existing) breweries. The cost we've paid in legal fees for trademark issues alone would have gone a long way. FYI, this is just tip of the iceberg of what's to come in my opinion. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01393042945691381860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-90805836575171237062015-03-12T11:00:34.359-07:002015-03-12T11:00:34.359-07:00Thanks for the thoughtful essay, Jeff. It certainl...Thanks for the thoughtful essay, Jeff. It certainly helped me understand another side of this issue that wasn't clear before. I'm not sure I agree 100% with either party in this issue, but I'm able to see Bell's side of the argument now.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14192684394028491122noreply@blogger.com