tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post7471888901815131852..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: Philosophical Question: Can a Beer Be Perfect?Jeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-19229069230895614322010-08-24T22:46:56.117-07:002010-08-24T22:46:56.117-07:00Perfect would infer flawlessness. I have found onl...Perfect would infer flawlessness. I have found only a few to exhibit anything close to flawlessness, but those few I will list:<br /><br />Amber Ale: Bell's Amber Ale<br />Pale Ale: Stone Pale Ale<br />Oktoberfest: Bell's Oktoberfest<br />Lager: Great Lakes Brewery Dortmunder Gold<br />Bock: Sierra Nevada Glissade<br />Porter: Great Lakes Brewery Edmund Fitzgerald<br />India Pale Ale: Will Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-18492059650670246642010-08-24T21:51:04.530-07:002010-08-24T21:51:04.530-07:00Jeff, no worries; I never felt like you were putti...Jeff, no worries; I never felt like you were putting words in my mouth. <br /><br />Yeah, I agree it's kind of an odd situation, but it just seems like the act of judging puts perfection out of range. You're judging to idealized guidelines. So you're kind of forced into a situation where you have to evaluate a beer against a written "ideal."<br /><br />On another note, Bill Schnellernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-4210793821587435102010-08-24T21:25:11.722-07:002010-08-24T21:25:11.722-07:00Posts like this--and the comments that follow--are...Posts like this--and the comments that follow--are what make your blog the best around, Jeff. Cheers!Carlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-7164163173688594372010-08-24T11:29:35.965-07:002010-08-24T11:29:35.965-07:00Bill, thanks for commenting. I did speculate, pro...Bill, thanks for commenting. I did speculate, profligately, on your approach based on that one comment. My goal was to provoke thought and discussion, not let it stand as your view--I should have been careful to say so. <br /><br />I wonder why judging should mean no 50-point beers while in drinking, they are possible. Intriguing.Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-33569376431570925072010-08-24T10:05:12.555-07:002010-08-24T10:05:12.555-07:00OK, I need to jump in here to clarify a few things...OK, I need to jump in here to clarify a few things. For the record, I don't think I intrisincally "look for flaws." Frankly, I hate people who do that and it goes counter to everything I believe about judging and, moreover, about enjoying beer (since beer is ultimately about enjoyment). I like to think I judge holistically and try to take the sum total of a beer. At competitionsBill Schnellernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-89590323591740464722010-08-24T05:43:14.343-07:002010-08-24T05:43:14.343-07:00The beer in my hand is always a perfect beer.The beer in my hand is always a perfect beer.JayZeishttp://abeerinhand.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-71994071878581818172010-08-23T19:50:05.495-07:002010-08-23T19:50:05.495-07:00That's odd. I was sure Hop Stoopid was third....That's odd. I was sure Hop Stoopid was third.Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-65589710180681092802010-08-23T19:36:24.623-07:002010-08-23T19:36:24.623-07:00Angelo wrote that Lagunitas Hop Stoopid took secon...Angelo wrote that <a href="http://brewpublic.com/beer-events/weekend-in-review-19/#more-10522" rel="nofollow">Lagunitas Hop Stoopid took second place</a>. Did I miss something?Sláinte Mhaithhttp://twitter.com/Slainte_Mhaithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-56439436223309488902010-08-23T16:29:11.057-07:002010-08-23T16:29:11.057-07:00Anon, of course it was. Corrected. Thanks!Anon, of course it was. Corrected. Thanks!Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-35067468956927567892010-08-23T16:00:20.680-07:002010-08-23T16:00:20.680-07:00FYI - It was the Hop Henge (batch 8, brewed by Cam...FYI - It was the Hop Henge (batch 8, brewed by Cam O'Connor at the Portland Pub) that was poured, not the Hop Trip (their late summer fresh hop beer).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-44870769653237689492010-08-23T15:11:06.325-07:002010-08-23T15:11:06.325-07:00oh.... Yes, a beer can be perfect. Perfect within ...oh.... Yes, a beer can be perfect. Perfect within style or should I say... Best represents a style in time and space. I, too, believe a great beer doesn't need to be "IN" style, but if judging a beer within a style... perfection does exists. Of course, the Doc's perfect 50 might be others 40 or 35. Some beers are universally excepted as perfect or WERE perfect at one time.<br />dr wortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-51577473384670346002010-08-23T14:17:51.770-07:002010-08-23T14:17:51.770-07:00I do think beers can be perfect, but this to me de...I do think beers can be perfect, but this to me depends as much on my mood as the beer itself. <br /><br />There have been times when The Abyss, The Dissident and Mirror Pond have been the perfect beer. Same with Terminal Gravity IPA and a fresh-hop IPA in my neck of the woods.<br /><br />But, hell, a Coors Original I had on a hot day last week seemed just about perfect, too.Soggy Coasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14646016892555782239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-29630963955486794022010-08-23T13:26:47.224-07:002010-08-23T13:26:47.224-07:00My perfects:
Imperial: Lompoc C-Note
IPA: Termina...My perfects:<br /><br />Imperial: Lompoc C-Note<br />IPA: Terminal Grav<br />Double (or mega-hopped): Tricerahops<br />Stout: DuClaw Blackjack<br /><br />And if I had to pick a perfect Kolsch, that Golden Valley choice at the Brewers' Fest was as close as I could come.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-3898670076097119302010-08-23T12:59:48.636-07:002010-08-23T12:59:48.636-07:00Interesting Jeff! I've never read a correlatio...Interesting Jeff! I've never read a correlation between religion and beer judging, although, I've had some beers that can be considered a religious experience. ;-} Since I hail to no supreme being, I may be more Buddhistic (sp) than anything else? <br /><br />It appears those who believe in a supreme being have found a perfect truth, where others SEARCH for the truth. Searching definitelydr wortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-2096582833501797522010-08-23T12:50:14.955-07:002010-08-23T12:50:14.955-07:00I was sipping some Session Black this weekend and ...I was sipping some Session Black this weekend and thinking "really, you couldn't do anything to this beer to make it better."<br /><br /><br />Must be a Buddhist thing...Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09688546442746669587noreply@blogger.com