tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post9088334577879427839..comments2023-11-02T07:13:53.064-07:00Comments on Beervana: Satori Award 2010: Prodigal Son Bruce/Lee PorterJeff Alworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-82531667042568566072011-01-01T12:30:42.888-08:002011-01-01T12:30:42.888-08:00The funny thing is Doc has tried it--and admired i...The funny thing is Doc has tried it--and admired it! But it is categorically exempt from praise because it's a porter. That is pretty much the definition of idiosyncratic. And so there's no real point in having the debate.<br /><br />Different strokes...Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-73400875063704962262010-12-31T10:13:10.047-08:002010-12-31T10:13:10.047-08:00Me funny? Hmmm, most people would say odd, or per...Me funny? Hmmm, most people would say odd, or perhaps eccentric if they're being polite. But anyway...<br /><br />No, Doc, I read well enough, but like most people, I'm selective. But when people get angry you know you're getting to something important and you gave me what I wanted and what I suspected:<br />"Nothing else tastes exactly like a Duvel, but there are plenty of Bill Schnellernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-42328188765278064032010-12-30T20:01:53.542-08:002010-12-30T20:01:53.542-08:00@Bill
You're a funny guy! Need to read a litt...@Bill<br /><br />You're a funny guy! Need to read a little more carefully, but a funny guy.<br /><br />I said, 'I'd give an award to a brewery that could duplicate (clone) a Duvel.' Period! <br /><br />I didn't say every Strong Golden ale or any Strong Golden ale... I said a Duvel Golden Ale. <br /><br />In case you missed the original point I'm trying to make... and dr wortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-39159698654000176252010-12-30T18:05:59.916-08:002010-12-30T18:05:59.916-08:00This is why blogs exist. They are mainly expressi...This is why blogs exist. They are mainly expressions of individual idiosyncrasies, and so Doc applies his strange, inconsistent rationales in one way, and I apply my own in another. <br /><br />If I would quibble at all on this point, it's to caution anyone in thinking that anyone's opinion in a matter like this establishes anything. It doesn't. There is no such thing as a Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-53785554807715400082010-12-30T17:18:48.674-08:002010-12-30T17:18:48.674-08:00So Doc, if you've had a zillion porters, why w...So Doc, if you've had a zillion porters, why would you give an award to someone who could do a Belgian Golden as good as Duval? Wouldn't that be passe as well, since you've ostensibly had a zillion Belgian Goldens and Duvel a zillion times? Wouldn't it have to be boring because it's been done so many times? If anyone brews a beer that's similar to what another brewer Bill Schnellernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-70657661868059021812010-12-30T13:35:37.419-08:002010-12-30T13:35:37.419-08:00Anon
Even if it's the best Robust Porter I...Anon<br /><br />Even if it's the best Robust Porter I've ever had, I wouldn't make it the top beer of the year. It's just a Porter.... and I've had a zillion great Porters. ;-}<br /><br />It's like eating the best hamburger you've ever had and calling in the Top Dish of the year.dr wortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-37754949943187350082010-12-30T11:00:42.077-08:002010-12-30T11:00:42.077-08:00Dr. Wort, I'm sorry, I'm confused. You are...Dr. Wort, I'm sorry, I'm confused. You are bashing Jeff's choice, but you don't seem to have any comments on the beer itself. Have you tried it? <br /><br />If you haven't tried it, then how do you know it isn't the most amazing porter ever? Why bash the beer when you are really trying to bash Jeff?<br /><br />The beer is excellent. It stands on its own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-52067658637897208862010-12-30T10:43:30.577-08:002010-12-30T10:43:30.577-08:00BTW, I don't look for an "IT" beer. ...BTW, I don't look for an "IT" beer. Marketing dorks look for trends. Fools follow trends, I look for unique experiences in beer. <br /><br />I'm not going to praise a Porter for being a Porter. If all the innovations have failed, then there's no unique and top beer of the year. Giving it to a Porter is like modern parenting bullshit philosophy that "Someone has to win&dr wortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-31239186450661261882010-12-30T10:34:14.401-08:002010-12-30T10:34:14.401-08:00@Bill
I'll give a Satori award to the first b...@Bill<br /><br />I'll give a Satori award to the first brewery that can clone the perfect Duvel Strong Blond Belgian, but just for one year. First American made Cantillion... Satori award. <br /><br />Read my new post and enjoy well produced "Big Mac Beers" (overproduced and over exposed) if you will. There's tons of well made beer out there.... Not all are worthy of any award dr wortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-51220923841932806142010-12-30T09:16:59.791-08:002010-12-30T09:16:59.791-08:00Sorry to jump on the anti-Doc bandwagon (well, not...Sorry to jump on the anti-Doc bandwagon (well, not really but...), but I completely agree with Jeff. Beer in well-known styles is only boring when it's poorly or mediocrely made. The key to a great beer, a transcendent beer, is execution, not an innovative recipe. In fact, "innovation" is horribly guilty of some completely awful, undrinkable beers. But so long as there are beer Bill Schnellernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-88410564032468574612010-12-29T18:58:11.391-08:002010-12-29T18:58:11.391-08:00Working on a DoC Wort post for ya. I'm sure yo...Working on a DoC Wort post for ya. I'm sure you won't be surprised with the context.dr wortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-74875076034572297872010-12-29T13:24:27.820-08:002010-12-29T13:24:27.820-08:00Well done Prodigal Son! I love it there.Well done Prodigal Son! I love it there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-90031036642338435782010-12-29T12:10:57.641-08:002010-12-29T12:10:57.641-08:00Doc, I sort of had you in mind when I selected thi...Doc, I sort of had you in mind when I selected this. It's a refutation to your thesis that transcendence only rides the waves of innovation. It doesn't; a well-made porter may easily be the best beer in a given year. <br /><br />And nowhere did I say it wasn't brewed to style, your quote marks notwithstanding. <br /><br />I encourage you to offer the "Doc Wort Beer of the Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-15690613237430898802010-12-29T11:45:56.537-08:002010-12-29T11:45:56.537-08:00Uh... So, tell me again why this beers stands out ...Uh... So, tell me again why this beers stands out as being an innovation in North West brewing? Enlightenment is what you are going for, right? In your post you describe your top choices by standard (non-original/non-innovative) styles; 'It's a Porter, an IPA, an Old Ale, etc.' Your winner is described as a higher gravity silky well-balanced Porter? That's it? That's all it dr wortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21271644.post-62913019955720890032010-12-29T10:13:31.634-08:002010-12-29T10:13:31.634-08:00Great choice Jeff. Cheers to Prodigal Son! This ...Great choice Jeff. Cheers to Prodigal Son! This was my pick in the People's Choice poll as well. <br /><br />As you know, I am "lucky" to have to work out towards Pendleton every other month. Visiting Prodigal Son is the highlight of my week out there. It is the first place I head to and I always have a porter. I almost always return once or twice more during the week and Jasonhttp://pdxbrewtunes.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com